Comments on: A Faith-Based Battle for Voters http://www.logipundit.com/2006/10/a-faith-based-battle-for-voters.html A Bastion of Reason Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:11:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Logipundit http://www.logipundit.com/2006/10/a-faith-based-battle-for-voters.html#comment-2598 Logipundit Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:03:00 +0000 http://www.logipundit.com/blog/?p=1868#comment-2598 I do not agree at all that a national referendum is the best option. When I say send them packing I mean replace them and change the system so that they are not forming little fiefdoms with our tax dollars.<br/><br/>A Representative Republic is not in and of itself the evil. It is the system of taxation, pork barrel politics, and cronyism that needs to be eliminated.<br/><br/>Technology doesn't solve the problem, and having no lobbyists and no professional legislators does not solve the problem...as I've pointed out before...if a high enough ratio of the population was informed enough for a referendum government to be effective, then Congress would not be in the shape that's in.<br/><br/>Apathy and naivete is not solved by saying, "Hey you can vote directly for this stuff." I do not agree at all that a national referendum is the best option. When I say send them packing I mean replace them and change the system so that they are not forming little fiefdoms with our tax dollars.

A Representative Republic is not in and of itself the evil. It is the system of taxation, pork barrel politics, and cronyism that needs to be eliminated.

Technology doesn’t solve the problem, and having no lobbyists and no professional legislators does not solve the problem…as I’ve pointed out before…if a high enough ratio of the population was informed enough for a referendum government to be effective, then Congress would not be in the shape that’s in.

Apathy and naivete is not solved by saying, “Hey you can vote directly for this stuff.”

]]> By: scottie http://www.logipundit.com/2006/10/a-faith-based-battle-for-voters.html#comment-2597 scottie Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:33:00 +0000 http://www.logipundit.com/blog/?p=1868#comment-2597 typo :<br/><br/>bottom-up not "bottum-up"<br/><br/>i got a little excited typo :

bottom-up not “bottum-up”

i got a little excited

]]> By: scottie http://www.logipundit.com/2006/10/a-faith-based-battle-for-voters.html#comment-2596 scottie Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:30:00 +0000 http://www.logipundit.com/blog/?p=1868#comment-2596 YEEEEEHHHHHHAWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!<br/><br/>send the bastards packing<br/><br/>vive le national referendum!!!!!!<br/><br/>there has been only one direct democracy in history, and that occurred in ancient greece<br/><br/>people had to serve in public office ; it was compulsory and it was rotating, with small terms<br/><br/>we needed a system of representation in the late 1700's and beyond due to technological constraints , not so anymore<br/><br/>people in BFE kansas had to send an elected rep to voice their issues, as BFE kansas was quite isolated from the center of government<br/><br/>is that still the case?<br/><br/>americans use the power of the vote for such crucial issues as american idol, greatest sports moment in 2006, aol polls on who wants to be a millionaire, but we cannot figure a way to use the same technological means to allow americans to vote on key political issues, thus bypassing our corrupt system of representation<br/><br/>i could vote with the democrats on a healthcare system being funded by income taxes<br/><br/>i could vote with the libertarians on elimination of the federal reserve act<br/><br/>i could vote with the republicans on the issue of abortion<br/><br/>i could vote with the green party on foreign policy issues<br/><br/>i could vote with the constitution party on limiting the overall size of the government<br/><br/>i could vote again with the libertarians on eliminating the personal income tax, which would also kill the healthcare funding, but oh well :-)<br/><br/>you guys do not see how this would be awesome?<br/><br/><br/>the middle man is corrupt ; fire his ass<br/><br/>this would be a bottum-up democracy instead of a top-down democratic system, the one we currently experience but with many restrictions and qualifications<br/><br/>voter fraud<br/>corruption at all levels<br/>system hi-jacked by special interest groups<br/>government secrecy<br/>government lies<br/>propaganda-driven choices of candidates<br/>weakening of the constitution<br/>shredding of the bill of rights<br/><br/>and i could add more, but i won't YEEEEEHHHHHHAWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!

send the bastards packing

vive le national referendum!!!!!!

there has been only one direct democracy in history, and that occurred in ancient greece

people had to serve in public office ; it was compulsory and it was rotating, with small terms

we needed a system of representation in the late 1700’s and beyond due to technological constraints , not so anymore

people in BFE kansas had to send an elected rep to voice their issues, as BFE kansas was quite isolated from the center of government

is that still the case?

americans use the power of the vote for such crucial issues as american idol, greatest sports moment in 2006, aol polls on who wants to be a millionaire, but we cannot figure a way to use the same technological means to allow americans to vote on key political issues, thus bypassing our corrupt system of representation

i could vote with the democrats on a healthcare system being funded by income taxes

i could vote with the libertarians on elimination of the federal reserve act

i could vote with the republicans on the issue of abortion

i could vote with the green party on foreign policy issues

i could vote with the constitution party on limiting the overall size of the government

i could vote again with the libertarians on eliminating the personal income tax, which would also kill the healthcare funding, but oh well :-)

you guys do not see how this would be awesome?

the middle man is corrupt ; fire his ass

this would be a bottum-up democracy instead of a top-down democratic system, the one we currently experience but with many restrictions and qualifications

voter fraud
corruption at all levels
system hi-jacked by special interest groups
government secrecy
government lies
propaganda-driven choices of candidates
weakening of the constitution
shredding of the bill of rights

and i could add more, but i won’t

]]> By: Logipundit http://www.logipundit.com/2006/10/a-faith-based-battle-for-voters.html#comment-2595 Logipundit Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:31:00 +0000 http://www.logipundit.com/blog/?p=1868#comment-2595 It's nice to know that 60 minutes has such a heart for Christian conservatives now. Thank God they're looking out for us.<br/><br/>If this guy isn't a political plant, I don't know who is. OK, so who hasn't made fun of Pat Robertson? He's asking to be made fun of.<br/><br/>That being said, conservatives in general are always being taken for granted by the GOP (see my last post), Christian and Non-Christian alike. Most disturbing though is Kuo's message of "Christian Conservatives just need to take a breather from politics." That's a blatant attempt to suppress the Republican vote, and is complete poppycock.<br/><br/>I hope those Christian Conservatives watching don't somehow think that staying home and letting Nancy Pelosi become Speaker of the House would better serve their interests.<br/><br/>I'm with Scottie...we just need to "send the charlatan's packing" and start over. It’s nice to know that 60 minutes has such a heart for Christian conservatives now. Thank God they’re looking out for us.

If this guy isn’t a political plant, I don’t know who is. OK, so who hasn’t made fun of Pat Robertson? He’s asking to be made fun of.

That being said, conservatives in general are always being taken for granted by the GOP (see my last post), Christian and Non-Christian alike. Most disturbing though is Kuo’s message of “Christian Conservatives just need to take a breather from politics.” That’s a blatant attempt to suppress the Republican vote, and is complete poppycock.

I hope those Christian Conservatives watching don’t somehow think that staying home and letting Nancy Pelosi become Speaker of the House would better serve their interests.

I’m with Scottie…we just need to “send the charlatan’s packing” and start over.

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