Self determination

June 30, 2005 Category: Uncategorized

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By: johnnyb

Here is an interesting graph, since the end of the cold war the nukes in America have dropped to about 10,000 bombs , roughly the same as (or half of, depending on which estimate you believe) the Russians. This number will probably get lower, albeit slowly, once things improve in Russia. Another site shows Egypt as the number 1 recipient of US foreign aid. Butch has a point about non-proliferation. U.S. is not preventing other countries from non-proliferating, unless you think US should cave in to North Korean extortion, and by not doing so is a hurdle to non-proliferation.

With regards to the U.N., I think Scottie has pointed out the futility of this organization, at least in terms of global diplomacy, better than I could. The U.S. supports Israel but not Iran. Both have “clandestine” nuclear programs. Israel is an ally and Iran, well, isn’t. US aids countries who aren’t allies but are “neutral” and not developing nukes (Jordan, Egypt). Whatever protocol the US signs at the UN will have little leverage in the face of enemies developing nukes.

Weaponization of space entails developing defense systems capable of taking out nukes on the fly or in the home of the aggressor. To the extent this is proliferation, certainly this administration is in support of that. Japan, lets say, may vote against it in the UN but when the Norks or Chinese get testy they will be happy the US has been a hurdle to non-proliferation. The alternative is to allow Japan to arm themselves in the face of a Nork threat…in which case the US would undoubtably be criticized as “being the biggest hurdle to non-proliferation”

Posted at 12:40 pm by Johnny B

Posted by scottie @ 07/07/2005 09:23 AM PDT
Israel is the number one recipient of US foreign aid. Egypt receives considerable foreign aid, due to the Camp David Peace Accords, but Israel receives far more than any other country. I don’t know where you got your data, but you need to be more thorough .

I read an interesting article yesterday concerning China’s military buildup. China has recently tested a longe-range missile (9000km range I believe), and the DOD here went ape-shit over the testing. Rumsfeld echoed concerns of the Chinese military build-up. The interesting thing I discovered was the country that sold China its high-tech components that drastically improved its long-range capabilities : Israel. What makes this data a double-whammy is that Israel’s missile technology is a derivative of the US’s , since we have armed that country to the teeth. Where is the outcry on Israel’s treachery?

To be clear, I never claimed that the UN should dissolve or disband, or attempted to trivilaize its existence. My point was that the actions of the US completely undermine the UN’s efforts. The US does NOT respect the wishes of the General Assembly, does not abide by the votes where the US is in the overwhelming minority, does NOT respect some verdicts of the World Court, the UN’s judicial component. And, not to make claims without proof, I offer the following headscratchers:
(These votes are somehwat dated but to signify actions which counter the mainstream media’s coverage of the US-UN relationship) :

1. in 1986, the US was found guilty by the World Court of international terrorism for its proxy war against Nicaragua. The US was ordered to cease illegal operations. The US , in fact, escalated the atrocities.
2. Soonafter this ruling, there was a Security Council vote calling on all nations to “observe international law”. The vote was 11-1 (US).
3. After the security council vote , there was a General Asssembly vote on the same measure of “observing international law”. The vote was 94-3 (US, Israel, El Salvador). Note the 2 countries that joined the US were client states.
4. A follow up vote on the same measure : 94-2 (US, Israel)

Where is the media through all this? Are these votes not newsworthy?????

In regards to non-proliferation and WMD, these votes might astonish the brainwashed ….

In 1987, there was a General assembly vote banning weapons in outer space (star wars). The vote was 154-1 (US). Another resolution which unequivocally called on all nations to stop developing new weapons of mass destruction. This vote was only 135-1 (US). Another resolution for a nuclear test freeze : 137-3 (US, Britain, France).

Simple questions to ask:

1. Why is this record not covered in the mainstream presses?
2. Why would the US vote this way?
3. Why is the story not that the US is virtually alone in the world?
4. Given the nature of the US’s record with respect to non-proliferation, why does the US try and prevent other nations from acquiring them?
5. Why does no one discuss the double standard of Israeli nukes in the context of a nuclear-free Middle East?
(I have covered this in a response to another entry from JohnnyB)
6. What gives the US the right to dictate which countries obtain nukes, since the US is still the only country to have used this type of weapon (on an enemy that already asked for a surrender, by the way).
7. Is the US as “benevolent” as it tries to portray itself?

Cheers


Posted by Johnny B @ 07/08/2005 10:45 AM PDT
I cited the OECD for the foreign aid stat…who do you cite Scottie?

Funny you mention about Israel and China, since I read this not two weeks ago on Yahoo news:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=3&u=/nm/20050619/ts_nm/arms_israel_usa_dc

Condoleeza kept her eye on the ball as a good anti-commie. I can’t speak for the american mainstream now that most all my news is off the web. Needless to say I am pissed that the Israelies tried to do this. I am not familiar with a successful sale of long range missile technology to China, Scottie, could you find that for me? Also, What do the Chi-coms need to go to a middle man for? They already developed long-range capability thanks to the Clinton admininistration.


Posted by scottie @ 07/09/2005 07:35 AM PDT
U.S. Financial Aid To Israel: Figures, Facts, and Impact
Summary

Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)

Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000

Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200

Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630
Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000

Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200

this comes from WRMEA

i have found other sources of data which support these figures

Egypt is #2 behind Israel, but with a population far , far greater than Israel’s, so the per capita aid is much, much lower

cheers

incidentally, if you want to know why the US gives Egypt considerable aid, i can explain
in 1973, Egypt proved that it was a force to be reckoned with(it was basically a draw between israeli forces and egyptian forces, but not a rout as in 1967), and could keep Israel in check militarily
that’s why the negotiated peace between israel and egypt went through(5 years later), and the payments represent the method of keeping egypt out of the way, so to speak (and also served to lure egypt away from the soviet sphere and into the western sphere)

cheers


Posted by Johnny B @ 07/15/2005 08:36 AM PDT
Scottie,
Don’t forget access to the Suez Canal, probably the most cynical reason for keeping Egypt in the western sphere. Anyway everyone’s seen those pictures with Sadat, Carter, and Begin, and heard about Sadat’s heroism etc etc. When did Jordan get on board (tacitly) and start getting foreign aid? Wasn’t it around the same time, or was this later?

The Broussard Rule:

June 04, 2005 Category: Uncategorized

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By: johnnyb

Every third post has to relate to China. Rumsfeld rattles the saber, and rightfully so.

Posted at 01:43 am by Johnny B

Playing Risk

June 01, 2005 Category: Uncategorized

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By: johnnyb


France Italy Spain
78,100 air force 63,600 air force 166,000 armed forces personnel
203,200 army 165,600 army 568 tanks
63,300 navy 40,000 navy
1069 battle tanks 1183 tanks
Greece Germany
33,000 air force 230,600army
116,000 army 76,200 air force
19,500 navy 26,700 navy
1723 tanks 2,300 tanks
Belgium Czech Republic
39,000 armed forces personnel 58,000 armed forces personnel
143 tanks 541 tanks
Denmark Poland
52,000 armed forces personnel 217,000 armed forces personnel
283 tanks 947 tanks

Everything comes from www.nationmaster.com . Many of these are numbers from ‘98-2000, good luck finding more recent numbers.

Posted at 12:03 am by Johnny B

Posted by JohnnyB @ 06/01/2005 12:09 AM PDT
These numbers add up to 1.3 + million, which is about the same number of American troops. This number does not include the number of troops guarding the Maginot line.


Posted by JohnnyB @ 06/01/2005 12:21 AM PDT
We also have 350,000 people in the navy. The Chinese have roughly 270,000 navy officers and Taiwan has roughly 70,000 sailors. Taiwans navy is bigger, in terms of personnel, than the U.K. or Japan.

http://www.navyleague.org/seapower/chinas_navy_today.htm

When Ideology trips over itself

March 17, 2005 Category: Uncategorized

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By: johnnyb

First a story about “our” governor Blanco:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7147701/

Basically, she opened up trade to Cuba via New Orleans. Supposedly only for sugar and agriculture. Now, since this is Kathleen Blanco, I’m immediately inclined to think she’s making a mistake…bolstering the Cuban gulags with Louisiana sugar and the like. But is trade with Cuba such a bad thing?

This reminds me of a link I caught- I can’t find it now- about a teenage right wing talk show host who has a big hit at Northwestern and was going to dominate the airwaves by aping Rush Limbaugh. “Social Security is in a crisis,” he’d say, or whatever the talking points were. I’ve caught a lot of guys on ClearChannel sound the exact same way. I never felt at home with the Mike Bayham wing of the republican party (Jordan knows what I am talking about). Anyway, I’m sure this kid would say, “Castro is a communist dictator, you can’t trade with him. The Cubans in Miami would riot, etc. He’s evil etc. Cuban missile crisis blah blah blah.

Granted, all that’s true, except for the riots in Miami. Castro is a nasty dictator, and the human rights abuses in Cuba are well documented if not often propagated. But didn’t Reagan argue that sanctions hurt the lower class and secure the ruling class in a country. He did, when he argued against sanctions in South Africa. Now, maybe sanctions “worked” in bringing about change in South Africa and the Balkans, but they clearly aren’t working in the case of Cuba. America has used the stick long enough, it is time to use the carrots. All the carrots Cubans can afford.

This is the same policy Bush/Clinton…Nixon employed towards China. If you can’t beat ‘em join ‘em. China has it’s share of human rights abuses too, and they are much more an economic and military threat to America than Cuba. Yet since the eighties trade has gone up considerably. Can anyone cite any restrictions place on economic trade to China after Tiananmen Square. I think there were only restrictions on weapons sales, which the Europeans are thinking of lifting. Those blessed ankle biters.

A big doc, just check out the graphs:
http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/library/downloads/keyWorkplaceDocuments/CRS/CRSChinaUSTrade3Oct03.pdf

On one level it makes sense. If a billion disgruntled poor huddled masses get upset enough, they may want to start building ships and tanks. Now, for the most part, they are making cheap and shoddy electronics, shirts, and other crappy trinkets we all buy at Wal-mart, and securing a living doing so. Why can’t we let the Cubans do the same?

Citations on Human Rights abuses pending.

Posted at 09:34 am by Johnny B

One more thing

January 26, 2005 Category: Uncategorized

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By: johnnyb

What about that “Wilsonian Inauguration speech“?

Posted at 11:15 pm by Johnny B

Posted by logipundit @ 01/26/2005 10:07 PM PST
As in Ronald Wilson?

We need a little idealism, don’t you think?…the Democrats have enough pessimism for both parties, so someone has to be able to see past their own eyeballs. I think a little bit of realism could have helped. You know, “It’s going to be a lot of hard work,” etc, etc. But it’s not like we haven’t heard that before.

Someone has to project a view of how much better the world can be, and this time it has to be the Republicans.


Posted by BP @ 01/28/2005 10:17 AM PST
I added the link, by the way. Just in case ya’ll didn’t get to hear it, (or freeze your arse off seeing it live.)

Delayed Reaction to Scottie

January 26, 2005 Category: Uncategorized

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By: johnnyb

Tuesday, January 25, 2005
Delayed Reaction to Scottie
Scottie’s voluminous posts certainly require thought to address…hard to know where to begin. Let me start by saying that it pays to be a client state of the United States. Of the horrible evil the U.S. has unleashed upon the rest of the world in the last 60 years, let’s examine a few of those countries the U.S. managed to turn into client states, as opposed to those countries that attempted wholesale collectivism or communism as part of a revolution against neo-imperialism.

First the client states:
Chile South Korea Japan Great Britain Ireland Thailand Greece Saudi Arabia Phillipines Australia
Canada

Countries that were client states but now are trying to determine their own hegemony (economic, at least)
Germany (Western at the time)

France Italy Spain

Let’s look at some of those non-client countries…

Russia China Vietnam Cuba Cambodia North Korea

and formerly non-client countries

Poland Bulgaria Yugoslavia Czechoslovakia Romania

Just a short list, but simply to make a point. One can look at U.S. intervention in, say, Greece. Papandreau is elected, and he’s not a communist, but he’s not “our guy” to use Clinton’s words. Military coup ensues and right wingers rule. In a vacuum, America’s part in overturning a democratic Greece is shameful. But in the long run the people of Greece are better off than those in Bulgaria. Whether Greece would have fell under the iron curtain had we not intervened, well, they didn’t know at the time. If the ONLY reason America allowed South Korea, or France to be kept from incorporation into the USSR was so we could have a market to buy and sell stuff (and a populace to “enslave”), so be it. The freedom you enjoyed in France, Scottie, would not have been available had not the U.S. meddled in international affairs.

That all being said, with the cold war with Russia at a reasonable ebb, it is good to learn lessons from the past, and as such discussing which policies would work instead of those laid down by history and our government, is not “bullshit”.

Posted at 11:12 pm by Johnny B

Posted by BP @ 01/26/2005 10:08 PM PST
Scottie, you there? Haven’t heard from you in a while.


Posted by Jordan @ 01/27/2005 10:13 PM PST
Nice.


Posted by BP @ 01/28/2005 10:05 AM PST
HE LIVES! Hello Jordan. We don’t hear from you in for a month and your comment is exactly one word.

Cool.

My problem with Chomsky #3098

January 15, 2005 Category: Uncategorized

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By: johnnyb

Found an interesting website

http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/Politics/chomsky.html

This guy tried to read a Chomsky book but couldn’t get past page 17. Though I doubt he really stopped there, I understand his point. Since he is an economics professor at Berkeley, you know he is a propaganda tool for zionists and Amerikan power brokers. Here is an interesting passage:

“The book began with a sketch of the history of U.S. foreign relations since World War II. By the second page Chomsky was in the middle of a brief discussion of planning for the postwar period. Four paragraphs were devoted to NSC 68–the end-of-the-1940s policy planning document that proposed building a military strong enough to confront the Soviet Union on any continent, and settling down for a long Cold War of unlimited duration. But NSC 68 was exhibited in a vacuum. There was not a word about the gradual shift in the late 1940s of U.S. policy from Rooseveltian cooperation with Stalin to Trumanesque confrontation, not a word about escalation of tensions–the fate of former German prisoners returned by the western allies to Stalin, the Soviet coup in Czechoslovakia, the disputes over German reconstruction ending in the Soviet blockade of Berlin–and not a word about how NSC 68 had no prospects of becoming policy until Josef Stalin took off the leash and Kim Il Sung began the Korean War.

I found this absence of any attempt to sketch the context disturbing.”

And later this:

What I object to is the lack of background, to the lack of context. In telling the history of the Cold War as it really happened–even in ten pages–there has to be a place for Stalin, an inquiry into the character of the regimes that Stalin sponsored, and an assessment of Stalinist plans and expectations. But Chomsky ruthlessly suppresses half the story of the Cold War–the story of the other side of the Iron Curtain.

This guy says what I was trying to say, only much more eloquently. When discussing US ham-fisted intervention in other countries, it’s important to factor in, well, our enemies

Posted at 12:11 am by Johnny B

Posted by BP @ 01/21/2005 06:25 PM PST
Stalin? Who’s that?

Ahem, Three way ?

December 09, 2004 Category: Uncategorized

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By: johnnyb

Scottie,

Wilson won because Roosevelt took Taft’s votes away. Taft didn’t even win Ohio in 1912!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election%2C_1912

Not that Taft was any good. Living in Ohio, you kind of learn to hate the name Taft. I’m no Taft historian, but I hear he was a better Supreme Court Justice than president. (Jordan you know any more about that?)

Looking back, TR was pretty cool. Bully for him for giving it another shot. And yes, I know about the phillipines. All that being said, “the people” voted more to the right than to the left (these distinctions were pretty fuzzy back then anyway). The point is, progressive and old-school republicans split the vote allowing a weak democratic party to still win the big office. So, are pluralities acceptable mandates, then?

I will say that I think Wilson sucked too, for different reasons. Treaty of What? League of What? Then again, it isn’t fair to lay all the blame for WWII or depression on Wilson.

Also, you have a point, Scottie, that the US should pick it’s battles. You vaguely suggest that Afghanistan and Korea were the right battles, Iraq is the wrong battle, and Vietnam somewhere in the middle, but mostly the wrong battle. What about WWI? What dog did the US have in that fight? A point Chomsky made (in the same 9/11 book) that I kinda-sorta agree with is that the US didn’t have a dog in the fight but jumped in anyway. There was the Lusitania, FWIW, …

I wish I could continue, but I can’t keep playing right now.

Posted at 04:42 pm by Johnny B

Posted by BP @ 12/10/2004 12:45 PM PST
BTW,

Wikipedia is absolutely one of the best websites on Earth. I can find something on just about EVERYTHING on this site.

CHOMSKY CHOMSKY CHOMSKY!

December 08, 2004 Category: Uncategorized

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By: johnnyb

I have two problems with Chomsky, who often cites America as the absolute biggest blight on the face of the earth, ever. The biggest problem I have with Chomsky is that, when the litany of American foreign policy travesties ensues he fails to address the red bear in the room. Was the CIA doing all this in a vacuum? Was there another hegemon out there, perhaps two, threatening the foundation of freedom and democracy in a much more widescale manner than overthrowing Arbenz and Allende?

The bad guy is always some American corporation. With regards to Indonesia and Vietnam, the Chinese Communists had no role in this whatsoever? Was the massacre at Indonesia any worse than the massacre at Cambodia? According to encylclopedia.com, the khmer rouge knocked out 1.5 million. While not as devastating as the famines in the Ukraine and China, it’s still some pretty high numbers, y’all. Chomsky was an apologist for the Khmer Rouge early on, claiming the genocide was all western propaganda. Another tactic he uses is to claim any news not good for his side is part of the propaganda machine. Chomsky is now willing to say Communism is bad (I’m referring mostly to his book post 9-11). Heck, it’s easy to say that now isn’t it?

With regards to Quaddafi, who is going to defend this guy? Was it the Zionists that blew up the Pan-Am flight 107 in Lockerbie? Do I need defend Reagan’s actions against Quaddafi? My question is: what would Chomsky do? Chomsky and fellow travelers pore through the history, look at the bad events, and find a way to blame America for them. It’s easy to be armchair president when your butt isn’t on the line. When there is little evidence about US involvement, the CIA must be involved.

Is the CIA this good? Would that they were! Maybe they could’ve figured out when we were getting attacked by terrorists. Apparently it takes like 5 CIA agents per country to completely overthrow hugely popular, idealistic, perfectly democratic governments. Are there no other factors involved in these coups? I’m skeptical of that.

As nasty as it sounds to some, I shudder to think of what life would be like around the world had the U.S. stood by in an isolationist stance while the Soviets and Chi-Coms continually flipped countries to communism. Sheesh, Scottie, you know the average income in North Korea and Vietnam? The average worker makes $1000 a year in North Korea, whereas in South Korea they make $17,000 (I’m citing www.nationmaster.com, which uses U.N. numbers). The results are there for anyone to see, and they are pretty tangible. When the iron curtain fell, people didn’t migrate eastward for a job.

Sure it sucks for Chile their democracy got hijacked for twenty years. 3000 or so people died in the revolution. That’s very sad. I’m skeptical about the level of American involvement in that coup. But on one hand, the free market policies enacted by the Chilean dictatorship resulted in the eventual replacement of democracy in that region (also thanks to the Catholic Church [Maria from Chile, personal interview]), and now the Chileans have the best standard of living in South America. In contrast, no democracy is coming in Cuba until Castro dies, and life still sucks there 40 years later.

Posted at 11:28 pm by Johnny B

Posted by Scottie @ 12/08/2004 08:44 AM PST
johnny b

i will be tied down with grading finals for at least a few days, but i read your response, and will respond either after grading, or when i take a break at some point

cheers


Posted by BP @ 12/08/2004 09:32 AM PST
Thank you Johnny B. I’m anxiously awaiting the response from our friend Scottie. I’ll tell you what, though…I’ll take this back even further:

What about Stalin? We sided with him, when we needed to rid Europe of another despot. Was that the wrong thing to do? Or are we going to become Hitler apologists because he was just struggling against the evil Zionists.

Johnny makes a great point about the view that historians have now. There’s a chance we expect too much:

Not only are our nation’s leaders (FDR, Truman, Reagan, Bush) supposed to have perfect real-time information of the past and present, they are also supposed to predict the future. Stalin we knew about, but we didn’t have a choice, but Hussein? Are we supposed to just turn on them like Carter turned on the Shah, or be loyal to them because we “supported” them 25 years ago? Which way do we go?

OH…that’s right we should stay out of it…let the Hitlers and Stalins do what they can to take over the world…and hopefully if we just stay still and quiet enough maybe they will leave us alone. And as long as noone is getting rich on oil and defense contracts, everyone will be happy.

Looking forward to it.


Posted by BP @ 12/08/2004 09:43 AM PST
OH, and Johnnie…great job on the references buddy.


Posted by Johnny B @ 12/08/2004 02:44 PM PST
Scottie,

No problem bro,

I need to get back into my lab work again, as well. So I’m going to be quiet as well for a while.