Self determination
Tags: foreign policy, Israel-Palestine, UN
By: johnnyb
With regards to the U.N., I think Scottie has pointed out the futility of this organization, at least in terms of global diplomacy, better than I could. The U.S. supports Israel but not Iran. Both have “clandestine” nuclear programs. Israel is an ally and Iran, well, isn’t. US aids countries who aren’t allies but are “neutral” and not developing nukes (Jordan, Egypt). Whatever protocol the US signs at the UN will have little leverage in the face of enemies developing nukes.
Weaponization of space entails developing defense systems capable of taking out nukes on the fly or in the home of the aggressor. To the extent this is proliferation, certainly this administration is in support of that. Japan, lets say, may vote against it in the UN but when the Norks or Chinese get testy they will be happy the US has been a hurdle to non-proliferation. The alternative is to allow Japan to arm themselves in the face of a Nork threat…in which case the US would undoubtably be criticized as “being the biggest hurdle to non-proliferation”
Posted at 12:40 pm by Johnny B
| Posted by scottie @ 07/07/2005 09:23 AM PDT | ||
| Israel is the number one recipient of US foreign aid. Egypt receives considerable foreign aid, due to the Camp David Peace Accords, but Israel receives far more than any other country. I don’t know where you got your data, but you need to be more thorough .
I read an interesting article yesterday concerning China’s military buildup. China has recently tested a longe-range missile (9000km range I believe), and the DOD here went ape-shit over the testing. Rumsfeld echoed concerns of the Chinese military build-up. The interesting thing I discovered was the country that sold China its high-tech components that drastically improved its long-range capabilities : Israel. What makes this data a double-whammy is that Israel’s missile technology is a derivative of the US’s , since we have armed that country to the teeth. Where is the outcry on Israel’s treachery? To be clear, I never claimed that the UN should dissolve or disband, or attempted to trivilaize its existence. My point was that the actions of the US completely undermine the UN’s efforts. The US does NOT respect the wishes of the General Assembly, does not abide by the votes where the US is in the overwhelming minority, does NOT respect some verdicts of the World Court, the UN’s judicial component. And, not to make claims without proof, I offer the following headscratchers: 1. in 1986, the US was found guilty by the World Court of international terrorism for its proxy war against Nicaragua. The US was ordered to cease illegal operations. The US , in fact, escalated the atrocities. Where is the media through all this? Are these votes not newsworthy????? In regards to non-proliferation and WMD, these votes might astonish the brainwashed …. In 1987, there was a General assembly vote banning weapons in outer space (star wars). The vote was 154-1 (US). Another resolution which unequivocally called on all nations to stop developing new weapons of mass destruction. This vote was only 135-1 (US). Another resolution for a nuclear test freeze : 137-3 (US, Britain, France). Simple questions to ask: 1. Why is this record not covered in the mainstream presses? Cheers |
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| Posted by Johnny B @ 07/08/2005 10:45 AM PDT | ||
| I cited the OECD for the foreign aid stat…who do you cite Scottie?
Funny you mention about Israel and China, since I read this not two weeks ago on Yahoo news: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=3&u=/nm/20050619/ts_nm/arms_israel_usa_dc Condoleeza kept her eye on the ball as a good anti-commie. I can’t speak for the american mainstream now that most all my news is off the web. Needless to say I am pissed that the Israelies tried to do this. I am not familiar with a successful sale of long range missile technology to China, Scottie, could you find that for me? Also, What do the Chi-coms need to go to a middle man for? They already developed long-range capability thanks to the Clinton admininistration. |
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| Posted by scottie @ 07/09/2005 07:35 AM PDT | ||
| U.S. Financial Aid To Israel: Figures, Facts, and Impact Summary Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid Foreign Aid Grants and Loans Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid) Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments Grand Total Total Benefits per Israeli Grand Total Interest Costs Borne by U.S. Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers this comes from WRMEA i have found other sources of data which support these figures Egypt is #2 behind Israel, but with a population far , far greater than Israel’s, so the per capita aid is much, much lower cheers incidentally, if you want to know why the US gives Egypt considerable aid, i can explain cheers |
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| Posted by Johnny B @ 07/15/2005 08:36 AM PDT | ||
| Scottie, Don’t forget access to the Suez Canal, probably the most cynical reason for keeping Egypt in the western sphere. Anyway everyone’s seen those pictures with Sadat, Carter, and Begin, and heard about Sadat’s heroism etc etc. When did Jordan get on board (tacitly) and start getting foreign aid? Wasn’t it around the same time, or was this later? |
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